Comments on my ifridge: Surf, Dive or Die ... the Wave is coming

Hi, Daniel -- I've recently been exploring (a...

2009-10-20T04:59:20.034+02:00

Hi, Daniel --

I've recently been exploring (as have many others!) the potential for using Google Wave as a learning platform. As a Senior Product Trainer at the Open Text NYC office, I'm really interested in reinvigorating our business model and our delivery methodologies to bring learners into the process. Haven't had any buy-in from within OT, but am playing around with ideas regardless. Started a Wave to get things rolling. Nothing there yet (as of right now) except my intro. If anyone's interested, ping me (s c bre nt (@t) googlewave.com

Hi Daniel, from my point of view there is two imp...

2009-10-18T22:47:50.851+02:00

Hi Daniel,

from my point of view there is two important arguments which are keeping the cloud from being successfull and trustfull:
- No one can expect google speed by using the google cloud (if the term google is overstressed replace it by amazon)
- No cloud service offers SLAs for availability/performance

Today (hopefully this will change soon) no one is really moving business critcal applications to the cloud because of these two reasons.

SaaS like Salesforce is a bit different - If you sign for SFDC you get strict SLAs.
Let wait and see who of all the Cloud services - I would take a bet that it is IBM or Oracle.
I don't think that google will make that game. The offer 0 SLAs for any of there services yet. Why should they do it in the future ?

Best regards
Heiko

Excellent post, Daniel! Srikant Sharma

2009-10-17T08:38:33.994+02:00

Excellent post, Daniel!

Srikant Sharma

Thanks Graham and Cheryl, The thing that makes m...

2009-10-17T01:00:25.379+02:00

Thanks Graham and Cheryl,

The thing that makes me so confident that the entire market is going to see some fundamental change, is the fact that people start to trust the cloud. Google and Salesforce demonstrate that you actually won't need software (not even open source) onsite anymore, if this trend continues, the current "vendors" are going to face some major challenges.

You both pointed out the user: I agree, the use is the key element and I see a tendency towards an 80/20 approach that is provided as a service. Because I would like to get things done not just implemented.

Daniel always interested to read your comments, if...

2009-10-14T12:51:30.013+02:00

Daniel always interested to read your comments, if nothing else you are razing interesting questions and I would agree with some of what you say.

I not convinced that Surf, Drive or Die are the only choices though.
This assumes that corporations are setting the direction of the social market place. Twitter is a good example of how users are setting the direction today. Twitter was setup for friends to tell each other where they are and what they are doing. This has morphed into so much more, led by users.
Google Wave will change and develop and in a years time may be something completely different, based on what users want and how they use it.

To expand and spilled into some of your comments made on It's over, isn't it?.
The problem today is that, this market is moving fast and yes innovating, evolving and providing new and exciting ways to communicate, the CMS/ECM companies have no choice but to evolve with them. Yes, some will perish but new ones will take there place.
If you look at the quality of web sites across the world today even by enterprise corporations there are still a lot of poor sites. These need CMS/ECM today and to think that these companies can jump from, where they are to a full working social environment is a big ask. Even if they could they would still need a solid basis to work from, this requires an effective site management system.

Cheryl also make some good points, we should not forget that at the end of the day people will buy what they need and want, don’t right off the customer.

Thanks Cheryl, always great to get your feedback. ...

2009-10-14T00:03:30.721+02:00

Thanks Cheryl, always great to get your feedback.

I am not sure I agree on the game changing impact of open source in general. I'd say an "open cloud" could be something. My point is that we don't build or own mobile network, so why would we build our own ECM system ... just use the cheapest (or best) provider.

In regard to the front office / back office I need to agree with you. I should have used Candy and Aspirin, saying: "... providing Aspirin to a Candy infrastructure ... "

2 things my good friend... 1) CMS Game isn't ...

2009-10-13T01:44:17.930+02:00

2 things my good friend...

1) CMS Game isn't over - especially as it morphs into more ECM flavoured offerings and social overwhelms both segments. And open source will change the game exactly as pundits say....even if the incumbents put their fingers in their ears and scream "lalalalalalala".

2) The front office / back office distinction is utterly craptaculous and irrelevant to 21st century business. Don't fall into the trap of framing customer needs into such a narrow set of definitions that no one in the consultant/analyst world buys into. Meaningful content defies org chart. Meaningful content defies hierarchy. Don't forget the lessons of 2.0. Someone is, but I hope it will not be you.